another court in california, by the way, the ninth district, ruled the opposite way, so what happens usually is it goes to the supreme court, and we're going to do a monumental ruling from the supreme court on this question i think in the very near future. >> yeah t.sound like it. michigan's attorney general says the ruling may take a while though to go into effect, if ever. so what does this mean then for minorities seeking admission to michigan universities now and those who sued actually to overturn the ban? >> well, ironically people have the courage to bring these lawsuits and get the whole ball rolling, rarely see the benefit of it, because by the time it winds through the court. four years is up or three years if it's law school so you wouldn't -- you'd be out of law school now because the person who brings the suit goes to another law school so they won't see the benefit of it, the person who actually brings the suit, but other students throughout the united states, of course, will be affected, and they will have an enormous effect on social policies in the united states. >>